[Supertraining] Re: Free weights versus machine weights

Tuesday, 15 January 2008      0 comments

That's the most sensible and concise exposition of this subject I've
seen. Your point about barbells and dumbbells was one that had not
gone unnoticed by me in this context. Thanks John.

Paul Rogers
Gympie, Australia

--- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com, "John Casler"
<bioforce.inc@...> wrote:
>
> Gordon Waddell wrote:
>
> "Machines are just dumbbells waiting to be re-incarnated" - Paul
Chek.
>
> John Casler writes:
>
> If we look at both machines, and free weights all as "force loading
> devices", then we can more clearly evaluate each individually, and
apply it
> to the goals and needs of the application.
>
> Restricted paths and stabilization supplied by some machines and
benches
> provide the ability to use larger loadings to specific areas.
>
> The more free and unstable actions afforded by some free weight and
cable
> applications have a tendency to involve mover and stabilizer
complexes to
> the advantage of training an area of or a complete kinetic chain.
>
> Even the very aspect of a barbell being more stable than two
dumbbells has
> elements that challenge the stability of the action and give us a
choice to
> what advantages that stability or instability might offer to our
goals.
>
> So as has already been stated, NO device is "inherently" bad or
good, but
> each can be better suited or lesser suited to the goal and
conditioning
> task.
>
> Machines certainly offer some unique abilities, in the form of
things like
> the application of force at, other than purely vertical force (as
in free
> weights only apply force toward the earth for the most part)
>
> Even Benches, stools, racks, and other devices allow us to position
> ourselves in ways that might allow such forces. Imagine a 400#
bench press
> without a bench.
>
> It is no secret that large strength increases can occur with added
> stability. It is also no secret that ignoring the stabilizers can
create
> "mover to stabilizer" imbalances that can offer challenges.
>
> So in the end, strength, function, hypertrophy, endurance and any
number of
> goals and complexed goals can be accommodated via looking for the
right tool
> (load device) for the job.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Casler
> TRI-VECTOR 3-D Force Systems
> Century City, CA
>

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