[loveshy_drgilmartin] Re: I am in a world of hurt.

Friday, 8 February 2008      0 comments

Ruth, we are sorry about your son. You are welcome to stay. We can
always use a woman's perspective.

We appreciate you opening up about your son. Is that why you are
here? Because you think he was love-shy and the depression from that
lead to his suicide? This can be hard to express, because not only
are you suffering from the loss but you probably feel that somehow it
was partially your fault.

If you think that your son may have been love-shy, then it is actually
quite important that you stay here, so that we can learn about what
can go terminally wrong. One reason love-shyness isn't cast as a
serious condition it that it causes no physical harm, but love-shy
suicides contradict that. Also being here will help you work on
expressing your situation publicly.

Do you understand, Ruth, that if you introduced yourself as someone
searching for answers to her son's suicide, you would have received a
much warmer welcome here.

Bratt is right there is no requirement for being here. Just expect
some animosity if you do not open up about your true intentions for
being here while expressing antagonistic or at least ignorant views.

--- In loveshy_drgilmartin@yahoogroups.com, "Ruth Ahlgren"
<ruth.ahlgren@...> wrote:
>
> Believe me, I don't know your parents, and my agenda was to
understand. Perhaps it would be better to take me off this email
list. I will read Dr Gilmartin's book and not intrude on your support
group, as I really don't have anything to offer. My son killed
himself and I
> too am in a world of hurt .

--- In loveshy_drgilmartin@yahoogroups.com, Bratt <bratt@...> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Talmer Shockley wrote:
> > Thirdly, this is a very intimate discussion group. We discuss
> > extremely embarrassing and extremely personal details of our lives.
> > Yet you disclose nothing about yourself even when directly asked. Did
> > the men you mention have difficulty getting married?
>
> Now you are being unreasonable! There are 2437 members in this group.
> Maybe 20 of those are active on this list. There's maybe a 100 fake
> profiles for spammers? The 2317 members remaining could be anyone. You
> don't go around requiring a reason for every one of them to be here I
> assume? There could be a million reasons why people don't want to talk
> about themselves, and people on this list should have the right to
choose
> that for themselves.
>

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