[Supertraining] Re: Deadlift to Stiff-Legged Deadlift Ratio? Chin-ups

Daniel,

I lived in Montvale as a kid, it's a great place. Most strength
coaches like to see the chin or row at least equal to the bench.
Mike Boyle likes his athletes to at least equal their bench press
with chin-ups (using external weights if necessary). Chad Waterbury
recommends a 1 to 1 ratio between the row and bench press in his book
Muscle Revolution.

Many beleive shoulder problems are more likely when one is able to
press much more than they can pull. It would be interesting to see
if there is any research to back up this claim. Still, I would think
it would be better to be stronger pulling than pushing.

Tom Rankin
Mt Veiw, CA
USA

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--- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com, "Danyl" <daniel.dziadiw@...>
wrote:
>
> I have read similiar results for the Row/Pull-up/Chin-up ~85% of
> bench.
>
> My pull-up/chin-up strength has consistently been significantly
> higher than my bench strength which is inverted to these guidelines.
>
> I would be curious if anyone could comment on my situation.
>
> Daniel Dziadiw
> Montville, NJ
> USA
>
>
>
>
> --- In Supertraining@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Rankin" <tkrankin@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Back in Nov. Jamie Carruthers posted relative loads for
> weightlifting
> > exercises. Knowing relative loads for basic strength training
> > movements would be helpful for the millions of us who do not
> compete
> > or specialize in the sport of weightlifting. Here is some of the
> > results I have found so far:
> >
> > Front Squat 70% of Back Squat
> > Bent Row 85-100% of Bench Press
> > Weighted Pull-up (including bodyweight)= Bench Press
> > DB 6 RM Shoulder press is 80% of 1RM Bench divided by 2
> >
> > I am particularly interested in the ratio of stiff-legged
deadlift
> to
> > deadlifts. I have a rough guess of SL Deadlift is 60% of
> Deadlift.
> >
> > Please let me know if any of these ratios are inaccurate and
where
> I
> > may find better information. As one who overdid the bench press
in
> > my youth, I find the concept of relative loads extremely useful
in
> > goal setting and training. To all a happy new year,
> >
> > Tom Rankin
> > Mountain View, CA
> > USA
> >
>

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