Health And General Life Care: RE: [Supertraining] Training Athletes?

Monday, 21 January 2008

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Are you actually comparing using fixed plane machines, to the use of computers and cell phones. People use computers and cell phones, becuase the technology is better and more functional. Machines are not. Most machines are based off designs created by a man who was by his own admission an "amatuer" anatomists and biomechanist. We don't adovocate machines becuase nothing an athlete encounters in the real world application is fixed plane. No one here has said that free weight, or Olympic Lifting replaces sport specific training. But what it does far far far better than machines can do, is train the body to adapt to loads, and exert force in all 3 planes of motion,much like it will have to in a sport environment.

Phillip Garrison
Mesa Community College
Mesa, AZ

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To: Supertraining@yahoogroups.comFrom: highlander89982003@yahoo.comDate: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:34:03 -0800Subject: [Supertraining] Training Athletes? (Was: Free weights versus machine weights)

David,I am curious, have you ever trained athletes? How would you train a football lineman?Bill RyanHavertown PaExarchives@aol.com wrote:It is not necessarily the tool, but it is said the use of a tool. According to many here a barbell/dumbbell is a far superior tool than a machine. The fixed plain argument is always a favorite here, but try bench pressing at an angle 10 degrees either way from the norm and see what happens. Seems many in this group carry a certain bias against machines. If I took a few of your personal machines away from you, you would find life a little difficult - say for example your computer and your cell phone and replace them with an antique crank phone and a typewriter. Many machine designs are questionable, but the far most important factor is their USE as well as with "free weights."The suggested use of Olympic Lifting (Sport) for the supplementary training of athletes is just plain silly. Teaching the skill of hurling a barbell upward for football players is akin to teaching your swimmers blocking and tackling. If the swim coach was ever seen "coaching" his or her swimmers to do so, you could be sure the coach would be carted away by the men in white coats.============================

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