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Nice input man!
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--- In loveshy_drgilmartin
<clivetillman@
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>
> Sorry about the lateness of my reply, but I have been so busy with
my new life.
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> >You approach her? or introduced?
>
> We first met at a social function for the church that involved
driving around the city as a group to view Christmas lights. I was
assigned to travel int he same car as her, so I was sitting next to
her and started a conversation. As we got talking I found out that she
was Korean and happened to know another Korean female friend of mine,
she also knew most of my other friends.
>
> After the first meeting we simply said goodbye without swaping
numbers or anything. However about a week later I was invited by a
female friend to a dinner party, and to my surprise she was there
also. We talked a bit and I also became friendly with her other two
male friends, a Japanese guy and a Korean guy. I still did not get her
number that time.
>
> Later in the week the Japanese and Korean guy invited me to their
new house for a house warming party, she was also there. At this point
I had gotten into her social group, but I still had not gotten her
number.
>
> A few days later I went out for New Years Eve celebrations, I
happened to meet her and her social group at the waterfront. I was
invited back to the house of the Japanese and Korean guys for more
drinks and that is when I started giving more attention to my soon to
be girlfriend, that night I asked for her number.
>
> I wated about three or four days before I decided to call her to
arrange to meet up. I called but she did not answer the phone so I
sent her a text message. It took another three or four days to get a
response
>
> >Use some sort of pick up artist technique?
>
> I did not use any technique at all. However my best friend was a
huge help for me. He was the one that told the girl that I was "crazy
about her" and he praised my like a god to the girl when I was not
around.
>
> The other thing that made it easier for me is that I am a friend of
one of her close female friends, so therefore she trusted me a little
bit. We also go to the same local catholic church.
> >She give you any signals of interest?
>
> Not at all. In fact I was really surprised when my friend told me
that he had spoken to her and she told him that she likes me.
> >Did you have to put on some show that you were "Mr. excitement",
cocky, aloof or super confident or were >you just yourself? (a talking
version of yourself anyway)
>
> I pretty much just acted like myself. However I am working long
hours at the moment, so it might have impressed her that I look so
hard working.
>
> >Have to give up masturbating in order to achieve this?
> Not at all. In fact I had sex with her last night, but I am not
seeing her tonight, so I might masturbate later tonight. I have not
masturbated since we have started having sex (twice a day for the past
week), so I am not too sure what it will feel like to masturbate again.
> >How did you ask for the date after you met her? Get her number?
>
> I asked her to meet me in the morning at McDonalds for breakfast.
>
> >Looking back on how you met her and actions you took there after
what would you say was the most >important thing you did to begin a
relationship with her?
> The most important thing I did was ask my friend for help. My friend
took my love-shy problem very seriously, and he was like a football
coach to me, really giving me a hard time if I do not do something. He
really pushed me to take things to the next level.
>
> The other thing I needed to get the relationship started was guts.
For example when were were still at the kissing stage, I had to get
the courage put my hands under her shirt and rub her. Then I had to
suck up the courage to touch her breasts under her bra, then finally
undress her.
>
>
>
> >Now that you are in the relationship with her hows that going? Any
nervousness in keeping it going?
>
> I am still in fear that she might dump me. But at the moment it
looks like I am in. This mornign I woke up next to her and she was
kissing me all over and stroking my hair. We are not meeting tonight
because we have been sleeping together just about every day for the
past week, but she sent me a sweet message: "hi my dear Clive! How are
you tonight? Have a good night and sweet dreams, see you in my dream=
love ____ XOXOX"
>
> >You two communicating well?
> Her English is not too good. She only arrived in Australia three
months ago, so it is a bit difficult to have a deep conversation with
her.
>
> >Sounds early but any progress in the sex department? And not sure
of your >previous experience with sex but have you discussed with here
your experience level? And anxiety around >that?
> The first few times we had sex I was in fear. I had shame about her
seeing me naked, I was so afraid I was shaking with fear. Also the
first few times I did not enjoy myself very much, I was not able to cum!
>
> Now I am getting used to it, I can cum inside her and I am relaxed
with her seeing me naked.
>
> Her ont he other had seems to enjoy the sex. She always pushed me to
go harder, and when I suck her niples she always says "harder harder".
She also seems to have no problem with being unclothed in front of me,
she just gets out of bed naked and walks around in front of me.
>
> Ather thing that was a big shock was sleeping next to another
person. I have slept alone all my life, so it was really weird to have
a human being sleeping in the same bed as me. For the first night I
was so nervous I did not get any sleep at all, I was so uncomfortable
and I was hyperventalting die to the discomfort of the whole situation.
>
> However after a few night I am now getting used to sleeping with
her, and I really enjoy it. I cuddling up with her all night,
especially when we are both naked and our bare skin touches each
other. It is such a nice feeling, and she is so warm when I hold her
in bed.
>
> I know that it is early stages, but I like my new girlfriend a lot.
I still have anxiety issues, but I really do feel a lot better. One
thing I have noticed is that my depression is almost all gone.
>
> I posted this to let you all know that it is possible to overcome
love shyness. Six months ago all I had behind me was one kiss at a
junior disco in 2001, now with a woman just about every day. There is
hope, you can beat this condition.
>
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> To: loveshy_drgilmartin
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> --- clive tillman wrote:> I finally met a girl that likes me at a
dinner party. > Finally we went out alone together, and she took my
hand> and later in the evening I initiated the first kiss. Thats great
news Clive!! Congratulations!
around here please give us some details on how you accomplished this.
not so much all the stuff leading up to it but how you handled the
situation with this girl.You approach her? or introduced?Use some sort
of pick up artist technique?She give you any signals of interest?You
actively pursue her after the meeting?Did you play like you were not
interested in her like we read we are supposed to?Did you have to put
on some show that you were "Mr. excitement", cocky, aloof or super
confident or were you just yourself? (a talking version of yourself
anyway)Have to give up masturbating in order to achieve this?How did
you ask for the date after you met her? Get her number?Looking back on
how you met her and actions you took there after what would you say
was the most important thing you did to begin a relationship with
her?Now that you are in the relationship with her hows that going? Any
nervousness in keeping it going? You two communicating well? Sounds
early but any progress in the sex department? And not sure of your
previous experience with sex but have you discussed with here your
experience level? And anxiety around that?A few months ago I had an
exchange with you where you basically said you were just going to
concentrate on your looks and you thought women should be approaching
you. Did that happen in this case? Still believe that philosophy?to
quote you:"I should not have to ask girls out, I play football
(Australian Rules) and havetwo university degrees for Christ sakes.
Only ugly and fat guys should have toface the humiliation of going up
to a girl and begging cap in hand for a date.Girls should be on the
floor begging me to let them give me a blow job."Great Job
Clive!SteveLos Angeles
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